Thursday, September 23, 2004


Israel pushing for toppling Iran

Get a load of this op-ed from Reuven Pedatzur in Ha'aretz.
A nuclear Iran would not leave Turkey apathetic, and there are concerns that it would take actions to procure nuclear arms. Saudi Arabia and Egypt, which view Iran as a threat to regional stability, might follow suit. Syria is likely to take steps in the same direction, on the assumption that it could get Iranian assistance.

Yet in spite of the negative repercussions such a development would have on the Middle East, Israel would be making a mistake if it decided to eliminate the Iranian nuclear program with military force.

This would have no chance, both because Iran's nuclear facilities are dispersed and most of them are buried deep underground, and because there is no information on many of them.

Israel should leave the job to the United States, in the hope that the Europeans will come to their senses and understand the danger to world peace posed by a nuclear Iran.
Umm... no, thanks. But I appreciate the thought: "Gee, this is too dangerous and costly... let's leave it to the Americans. They're stupid enough to go for it."

Also, Israeli Foreign Minister Silvan Shalom remarked at the UN General Assembly meeting yesterday:
"The international community now realizes that Iran does not only pose a threat to the security of Israel but to the security of the whole world... Indeed Iran has replaced Saddam Hussein as the world's No. 1 exporter of terrorism, hate, and instability."
Shalom tried to sell the threat to Europe by saying that Iranian missiles can reach London, Paris, and southern Russia. Maybe he is just hoping that the Europeans will "come to their senses" (which I doubt will happen by saying that Iran is number one now that Saddam is gone, given that Saddam seemed pretty toothless in retrospect).

This a spam, please forgive me.

It is urgent to get the word out about this:
Please Note, Dem's backing this as well

Subject: Mandatory draft 6/15/05
Express your preference.

Mandatory draft for boys and girls (ages 18-26) starting June 15, 2005, is something that everyone should know about. This literally effects everyone since we all have or know children that will have to go if this bill passes.

There is pending legislation in the house and senate (companion bills: S89 and HR 163) which will time the program's initiation so the draft can begin as early as spring, 2005, just after the 2004 presidential election. The dministration is quietly trying to get these bills passed now, while the public's attention is on the elections, so our action on this is needed immediately. Details and links follow. This plan, among other things, eliminates higher education as a shelter and includes women in the draft. Also, crossing into Canada has already been made very difficult.

Actions: Please send this on to all the parents and teachers you know, and all the aunts and uncles, grandparents, godparents. . . And let your children know - - it's their future, and they can be a powerful voice for change! This legislation is called HR 163 and can be found in detail at this website: Just enter in "HR 163" and click search and will bring up the bill for you to read. It is less than two pages long.

If this bill passes, it will include all men and ALL WOMEN from ages 18 - 26 in a draft for military action. In addition, college will no longer be an option for avoiding the draft and they will be signing an agreement with the Canada which will no longer permit anyone attempting to dodge the draft to stay within it's borders. This bill also includes the extension of military service for all those that are currently active. If you go to the select service web site and read their 2004 FYI Goals you will see that the reasoning for this is to increase the size of the military in case of terrorism. This is a critical piece of legislation, this will effect our undergraduates, our children and our grandchildren.

Please take the time to write your congressman and let them know how you feel about this legislation.


Please also write to your representatives and ask them why they aren't telling their constituents about these bills and write to newspapers and other media outlets to ask them why they're not covering this important story.

The draft $28 million has been added to the 2004 selective service system budget to prepare for a military draft that could start as early as June 15, 2005. Selective service must report to Bush on March 31, 2005 that the system, which has lain dormant for decades, is ready for activation.

Please see to view the Selective Service System annual performance plan, fiscal year 2004.

The pentagon has quietly begun a public campaign to fill all 10,350 draft board positions and 11,070 appeals board slots nationwide. Though this is an unpopular election year topic, military experts and influential members of congress are suggesting that if Rumsfeld's prediction of a "long, hard slog" in Iraq and Afghanistan (and permanent state of war on terrorism) proves accurate, the U.S. may have no choice but to draft.


entitled the Universal National service Act of 2003, "to provide for the common defense by requiring that all young persons (age 18-26) in the United States, including women, perform a period of military service or a period of civilian service in furtherance of the national defense and homeland security, and for other purposes." These active bills currently sit in the committee on armed services. Dodging the draft will be more difficult than those from the Vietnam era.

College and Canada will not be options. In December, 200 1, Canada and the U.S. signed a "smart border declaration," which could be used to keep would-be draft dodgers in. Signed by Canada's minister of foreign affairs, John Manley, and U.S. Homeland Security director, Tom Ridge, the declaration involves a 30 point plan which implements, among other things, a "pre-clearance agreement" of people entering and departing each country. Reforms aimed at making the draft more equitable along gender and class lines also eliminates higher education as a shelter.

Underclassmen would only be able to postpone service until the end of their current semester. Seniors would have until the end of the academic year.

What to do:

Tell your friends, Contact your legislators and ask them to oppose these bill. Just type "congress" into the aol search engine and input your zip code. A list of your reps will pop up with a way to email them directly. We can't just sit and pretend that by ignoring it, it will go away. We must voice our concerns and create the world we want to live in for our children and grandchildren.
Alex, since when does 'Reuven Pedatzur' = 'Israel'? Unless you meant to write 'Israeli Pushing For Toppling Iran'... Or you meant the foreign minister, although I did not see any mention of toppling Iran in the quote you provided.
Do you think the current Israeli administration would openly express a strong opinion *against* toppling the current administration in Iran, Gabe? I haven't seen anything like that recently, but I admit I don't read Israeli news sources too widely.

Do you think the current Israeli administration would ever say that possession of nuclear capacity is a legitimate goal of all countries in the Middle East, given the situation that presently exists? Clearly, both the US and Israel believe that Israel's possession of nuclear warheads is a legitimate response to the political situation. Or if not legitimate, advantageous.
gabe, maybe you should reread the shalom quotes. or maybe i should retitle it "push for toppling iran eminating from israel, both from newspaper columnist and foreign minister" to make it clearer.
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